Tag: hate mail

  • More crusty outrage

    I received an email from a former commander of the Eastern District (he retired before I was there). He too refuses to read my book [everything below is edited and cut for length from the original emails]:

    Your apparent motivation for writing your book would indicate that it was successful, you have your new profession, that of college professor; but then again, you didn’t really have law enforcement as your “old profession”, did you? Your book was obviously matter of expediency! What “real police” find offensive, is when interlopers such as yourself, apparently believe that a year on the street grants them some kind of miraculous wisdom to analyze, and be critical of, probably the most complex area of public service that exists today!

    You see professor, police are special, very much so; they have conferred upon them an awesome, and totally unique responsibility, by the public that they serve, and that is the power to take a life!

    Oh, our military can kill people, but only after they have an identifiable enemy, and in today’s military, after the legal advisor who is deployed with them, grants them the permission to do so! But our police, they make split-second decisions, decisions that may see them taking a human life, and there are no advisors deployed with them, nor is the “enemy” often readily identifiable! No one, and I mean no one, in our society, has that awesome power; not the well over paid Congress, the activist judges, nor the President himself!

    And professor, that is why your book upsets real police; there is a sort of snobbish effrontery to every working police officer, when some opportunist such as yourself, exploits a mere year of service, converting it in some way to confer expertise on his puny observations, which were subsequently recorded for future use and gain!

    In order to truly legitimize your book, you would have needed to spend much more time on those streets in the Eastern, but then, that would have interfered with your future employment schedule, wouldn’t it? Do you still wonder why your book is resented?

    [signed]
    Major (retired) BCPD

    Dear Major ,

    I just composed an honest but rude email to you. Because you were a major, I respect you. I want to get your permission before sending it to you. It’s nothing personal, but it’s a bit rude. I think you can take it.

    Here’s my polite response:

    I think you misunderstand me as some anti-cop academic. Nothing could be further from the truth (well, except the academic part). I respect and honor every police officer to ever wear the BPD uniform. Especially the patrol officer. My book is dedicated to those who have died in service! And you dare criticize?

    I speak for the underappreciated patrol officer riding around right now in the Eastern District (and Western District, and other districts like it, if there are any). I never pretend or claim to know more than people with the experience of you. But really, how can a respond to criticism if you have no idea what I have to say?

    I’ll tell you what: can I send you a copy of my book? On me. You don’t even have to buy it. Like a gift. That’s right, you can make me spend my own money to buy my own damn book and mail the damn thing to you (I’ll just have it shipped from Amazon——please don’t think I get them for free). Just because you have the balls to write me.

    But I’ll tell you what: if you like my book or not, you have to write me and tell me what you honestly think. That’s the deal. That’s your duty. And I’ll post it on my blog. And one more condition: if you actually enjoy reading my book, or think there’s something of worth in it, then I want a check from you for the $25 cover price.

    Peter

    Dear Professor Moskos,

    First of all, the question about the “reduction” in homicides while I commanded the Eastern; to be quite honest, since my retirement in 1995, which was several years after my assignment as the Eastern District Commander, I honestly do not recall that statistic; however, in deference to you, I must admit that there probably was no reduction!

    There is very little that police can do to reduce the rate of occurrence of homicides: every minute of every day, presents an opportunity to commit these crimes, there simply are not enough police officers to significantly impact the opportunity to commit homicide! Most crimes of passion homicides are committed inside, and between people who know each other; there is very little likelihood that police officers will be present to prevent these!

    Oh yes, good police officers know who “the bad guys” are where they patrol, and yes, they know which ones have a homicidal proclivity also, but that prevents nothing! I will wager, that if we would “allow” police to make preemptive arrests of known violent criminals, many homicides would be prevented, but that is not the case, is it? Police experience and intuition, and yes that “gut feeling” that goes with being a true professional, if unleashed, could prevent a lot of crime, including homicides, but that would be violative of someone’s rights, wouldn’t it?

    Now for that “rude” response that you prepared for me; I say have at it, I have been called things that I would be willing to bet that you have never even heard, even during your extensive time on the streets of the Great Eastern District!

    Dear [Major],

    I just find it amazing that you think so much about me without having a clue as to who I am or what I stand for.

    My book isn’t about being a sergeant. Or a major. Or anything but being a lowly patrol officer of the midnight shift in the Eastern.

    What does strike a nerve is when you imply or say I wasn’t a real police officer. That does bother me. You wouldn’t tell a soldier he wasn’t a veteran because he “only” served 2 years, would you?

    You can say I wasn’t a police officer for long. True. Or that I would know a lot more had a stayed on the force for longer. Very True. But while I was there, I was a damn good police officer risking my life every damn night for my brothers and sisters in blue and also for the worthless scum of the Eastern District (and, oh yeah, the good citizens, too).

    I’ll be back in Baltimore this very weekend. Eating crabs at my sergeant’s church with him a bunch of my former squadmates. You know what, they criticize me too. But I can take it from them because they know me. They also risked their lives for me and know I did the same.

    My offer still stands, by the way. I’ll buy you a book if you want. If you don’t read my book, I don’t have more to say. You can be a fool and criticize me for what you think I stand for, or we can have an intelligent discussion about what I wrote and what police can do, if anything, to prevent crime.

    Anyway, here’s what I wrote last night. The “rude” letter. Looking over it again, it’s not so bad. So I call you an asshole and a fool and full of shit. I know you’ve been called far worse.

    Dear [Major],

    I don’t wonder why my book is resented. Because in truth, it’s not. No cop who was read the damn thing resents it. Only people who believe what they read in the “liberal media” (frankly, I’m surprised you read The Sun) have something against me. You’re full of shit.

    Why don’t you just read the damn thing (my book, that is, not The Sun) and then bitch? A man who condemns something about which he knows nothing is at best ignorant. And also perhaps a great fool. Consider that.

    I wasn’t a cop for long. But at least I earned my chops the tough way.

    Frankly, sir, and forgive my bluntness: I think you’re an asshole. But you know what, I’ll forgive you, because I can be an asshole myself. And hell, some of my best friends are assholes. But at least I had the common courtesy to read what you wrote.

    What I give in my book is an honest portrayal of what it was like to be a patrol officer in the Eastern District for over a year. Nothing more. Nothing less. You got a problem with that? Write your own damn book.

    Peter

  • Hate mail (2.4)

    The latest from my conservative friend:

    Prof Moskos;

    Lets get real. Legalize drugs? Just look at alcohol. 21 years olds buy it give it to younger friends, who give it to even younger friends and now we have many 12 year old alcoholics in this country. Multiply that with narcotic addiction and see what the fabric of this country looks like then. Who will be trainable to fly the F22 raptor? Some coke head like Obama….. And lets be realistic.. What is so bad about drug dealers killing each other..?

    As far as I’m concerned that is a win-win situation.

    Now to your premise about liberals not ruining Police Depts…. In the past Baltimore had one of the best Homicide squads in the Nation. Their clearance rate was over 90%.

    Then came the downfall ” Affirmative Action” every liberals dream.

    Good street smart homicide detectives were unceremoniously removed from homicide and put back in uniform. They were replaced with rookie, black, officers with little or no experience, just to appease the Gods of P.C.

    Now the clearance rate is somewhere around 40% and homicides are up.

    Please explain how this liberal move has made Baltimore a safer place to live.

    Baltimore now has a new nickname which is known all over the East coast: ” The City that Bleeds”.

    When I was a kid in the 40’s and 50’s you could sleep in Patterson Park on hot nights.

    Try it now… if you dare….

    Again about education. I have a daughter-in-law with a masters my son had 3 years college, and my family is conservative. Mostly because of family values and the fact that my son and his wife went to a Moderate school. There were no Ward Churchills teaching there. I myself have some credits from a community college. I am not against education, I am against educators brainwashing students to be little socialists.

    Kruschev once said “we will destroy you from within”. That destruction starts with biased education.
    Mark DeRosa Sgt ( ret) Balto P D

  • Hate mail (2.3)

    I’m giving the sergeant a pseudonym, Sgt. Mark DeRosa. That’s not his real name. He is willing to use his real name and print his email. But I’d prefer to give him a pseudonym and not print his email.

    I wrote:

    Sgt. DeRosa,

    I also want you to know that I am and will continue to post our correspondence on www.copinthehood.com. I’m not identifying you in any way, other than retired BCPD sgt.

    Yours,
    Professor Peter Moskos
    Dept. of Law and Police Science
    John Jay College of Criminal Justice
    899 10th Ave, Room 422
    New York, NY 10019

    Sgt [DeRosa] writes:

    Feel free to post my name and address if you wish [Ed note: I do not wish. But I admire his willingness.]. I am a proud conservative and vote that way every election. I distrust any one who contends that “the police are the problem” in the ghetto. Those animals living there who rob “mostly their own” are the problem. I totally distrust any one who contends that drugs should be legalized. Hell, why not legalize bank robbery & rape, then we could lay all the police off as there would be no crimes to arrest for. Then we would have more money to give to those who chose not to work for a living.

    Liberalism has ruined Police Depts all across this country. It has begun to ruin the whole country as well.

    As for me I will not sing “Kum-by-ya.”, I will keep my powder dry, my guns loaded, and my picture of Charlton Heston dusted. I will never be a victim because some liberal thinks I should be. Further more, I do not have a problem with your PHD, just the way educators use it to impress liberal views on young kids who are paying a fortune to be turned into future liberal activists. It is a statistical fact that 90% of professors are left wingers. Surveys that were taken prove this, as the intelligencia has admitted it. Ward Churchill is a perfect example. Teach if you wish, but teach the truth, not the truth as you wish it to be.
    [Mark DeRosa] Sgt (ret) BCPD

    My response:

    [Sgt DeRosa],

    The police are not the problem. I agree. Again, I wish you would read my book. You’ve taken me for some cop-bashing liberal. I’m not (well, I am liberal. But I’m not a cop basher. Believe it or not, those are two different things).

    I do think drugs should be legalized. Basically because I don’t think drug dealers wouldn’t shoot each other as much if drugs were legal. There’s more, but I’m not going to type my reasoning again here. It’s in the book.

    I think you misunderstand Liberalism. I’m not saying there aren’t any stupid and intolerant liberal. There are. Just like exists among conservatives. I feel I do teach the truth. Sometimes the truth is Liberal. Sometimes the truth is Conservative. You know what liberals and conservatives have in common? When they know that they’re always right and think less of those who hold other opinions, they become one and the same thing: fascist.

    But no, I don’t think Liberalism has ruined Police Departments. I think Liberalism has made policing and the country better. I also think that police should reflect, to some extent, the people they police. So personally, being liberal and living in a liberal area, I’d prefer to have more liberal cops. I think the streets would be safer.

    I appreciate you not hating me for having a college degree. I’m sorry you’re against higher education in general because of the generally liberal bias. But that’s why you take many professors, to hear all different perspectives.

    Peter

  • Hate mail (2.2)

    This conversation starts a few posts down. Here’s the latest:

    I have read excerpts from your “book” and frankly sir, “YOU HAVE NOT PAID ENOUGH DUES TO BE CONVERSANT IN POLICE WORK”. I think that your PHD impresses only you. It certainly does not impress me. As a Sgt, I had College grads working for me ( I am not one myself) and had to correct their misspelled, mispunctuated, sloppy, reports. It was laughable. One such ” Grad” lost a $100 bet to me because he was so convinced that construction ‘Site’ was spelled “sight”.
    You sound like the usual liberal Academia, which has been the problem, not the solution to the type of recruits the Dept is getting.
    I do not know which years you were on the dept, but I started in 62′ when there were no walkie talkies, mace, issued handcuffs, and you had to WALK an arrestee blocks to get to a call box. Not to mention 60 year old .38 cal revolvers with ammo that you could actually see the bullet fly when you fired them.
    P.S. I worked in the Eastern District for 4 years as a Sgt and it was a busy district, but not the combat zone you describe. Of course I had Officers working for me that were tough, street smart cops who did not have to resort to sociology to get the job done.
    Before one “talks the talk”, they should have “walked the walk”
    I don’t think you should be expecting “Pulitzer” to be calling soon.
    [name removed] Sgt ( ret) BCPD..

    My response:

    Sgt [******],
    First of all, I appreciate you writing me with the dignity of a full name and an email. I will talk to any man, man-to-man. I respect that.

    But again, you seem to be reading too much into me without knowing me.

    I never say police should be college grads (which seems to be your sore point). Just please don’t hold it against me for having a PhD. It doesn’t make me a worse person. Really. And it does allow me to get a great job teaching in college.

    My book stands on my analysis and description of policing, not my degree.

    You were real po-lice. Actually, if anything, my point is that we need more police like you. Police should be able to police like you did: no radio, no mace, and walking prisoners back to the District. I’m not making fun of you. I’m totally serious. You knew how to make a good arrest and walk that prisoner back without getting your ass kicked. It’s not [that you] coddled bad guys. I’m sure you didn’t. But you were able to gain the respect of people you policed because you knew who the bad guys were. That’s what policing is all about. That’s what may be lacking today. That’s my point! But of course you don’t know my point. You just think I’m a prick with a college degree. If you still think that after reading my book, that’s your business.

    You might actually find that we have a lot in common. I don’t know what else to say. If you don’t read my book, I have nothing else to say. I don’t want to waste my time writing what is in my book. I mean, I’ve already written it. That’s my book.

    I’m politically liberal and I’m sure you’re politically conservative. But we’re probably less far off in our beliefs than you want to think.

    One other question. I’m not telling, I’m asking… but I don’t think the E.D. wasa combat zone when you were patrolling it. Probably because you were doing a good job. I think the worst years were in the late 1980s and late 1990s.

    Yours,
    Professor Peter Moskos
    Dept. of Law and Police Science
    John Jay College of Criminal Justice
    899 10th Ave, Room 422
    New York, NY 10019
    www.copinthehood.com

  • Hate mail (2.1)

    Here’s another. Once again, I can’t take criticism too seriously from people who haven’t read my book. I haven’t yet heard anything bad from anybody who has actually read my book. But I’m sure that will come, too. In the meantime:

    While I have not read your book, and don’t intend to I have a question for you. How do you become such an expert on Police work and functions. Keeping in mind that you had to work one full year on each shift in your vast 3 year tenure. You only had one years experience on 4X12 shift where most of the action occurs. Day shift is boring and 12X8 shift is usually quiet after 3 AM.
    You sure crammed alot in that one year of 4X12 combat.
    I spent 25 yrs plus on the BCPD and keep company with police who have experiences in the 30-35 year range, some of them command staff.
    They as well as I, do not “consider” ourselves experts, just experienced.
    Good luck with the “book” rookie. Keep telling those war stories, someone might buy that bull.
    [*** *******] Sgt (ret) BCPD

    My reply:

    Sgt. [*******],

    Why so bitter? Because I only worked 20 months? Or because I wrote a book? I make no apologies for either.

    A lot of your questions are answered in the book (I worked midnights, by the way). You really shouldn’t be so critical of somebody for writing something you haven’t read. It’s not a long book.

    I never called myself an expert. I don’t consider myself an expert in the sense that I know more than anybody else who’s worn the uniform. Given my 20-and-out (months, that is), I know less than any retired Baltimore City police officer. I have less experience that 80% of active police officers. I just call ’em like I see ’em.

    People are and should be interested in policing. If more experienced police officers could and would write books about the job, there wouldn’t be a need for my book. Why don’t youwrite a book? Maybe then police officers would be treated with more respect. What are your ideas about how to improve policing? Now that you’re retired, what have you done to make policing better? I’ve spent the past 7 years writing and working toward this book. I hope my book will improve the working conditions for all police officers, but especially police in the Eastern District.

    If you want to judge me, first read my book. Or talk to somebody who has. Or at least talk to somebody who worked with me. They’re not hard to track down. Get Cop in the Hoodfrom the library to save that gigantic $1.50 royalty from paying off my meager advance.

    Yours,
    Professor Peter Moskos
    Dept. of Law and Police Science
    John Jay College of Criminal Justice
    899 10th Ave, Room 422
    New York, NY 10019
    www.copinthehood.com

  • Hate mail (1)

    I’m amazed that the mere thought of my book would get people so riled up that they would write me. It’s hard to take criticism of my book seriously from people who haven’t read my book. But here’s the first email:

    Mr. Moskos, three years. Count them (3) years!! Wow! How in the world did you stand being on that job so long? It is very dangerous. Have you ever gone to court, or shot at, or been shot at by anyone? Have you ever walked in a neighborhood without a walkie talkie, or handcuffs? Have you ever walked at all? It must have been really hard on you trying to study to get a degree and working all those nasty shifts that police officers work, and be very busy answering calls and writing tickets, and all the other stuff cops do. Did you ever get beat up, or get into a fight with anyone? Did you drop your study material during a fight? I’ll bet your side partners really miss you, since you were there for so long. I’ll bet you were a police “agent” that everybody thinks so highly of? Have you ever met Joseph Wambaugh? He wrote a book also. You should read it. Maybe you could put some of his thoughts into your own words.

    My reply:

    Dear ******,
    Actually, it was less than two years.
    But in answer to your questions:
    Yes, I’ve been to court.
    Yes, I’ve been shot at.
    Yes, I’ve walked in many neighborhoods without handcuffs or radio. But no, I would never walk the Eastern Distict where I policed without the tool of my trade.
    I wasn’t studying when I was a cop. I just took notes when I got home.
    I never got beat up.
    I was in fights.
    My partners say they do miss me, at least many of them do.
    I wasn’t an “agent.” I was a police officer. But yes, I had the academic degree needed to be an agent.
    I haven’t met Joseph Wambaugh, but I do like his books.
    I hope you read my book before passing more judgements.

    Yours,
    Professor Peter Moskos
    Dept. of Law and Police Science
    John Jay College of Criminal Justice
    899 10th Ave, Room 422
    New York, NY 10019
    www.copinthehood.com